How to Find the Will after a Death

 
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Lost Will Search.
How to Find a Will & Testament or search for shares or other assets when someone dies: there are lots of ways to try to find a mislaid Will document and assets which are not where you would expect them to be. And therefore avoid having to work with the Rules of Intestacy to decide who inherits, or failing in your duty as executor – or worse, acting as administrator when there IS a Will – you just haven’t gone to the trouble of finding it. Just as bad is using the wrong Will when there is a newer one which you were not aware of.  The repercussions of all of these can be unfortunate for those involved as executors or administrators, ranging from being sued for giving inheritances to the wrong people to large fines by the Taxman for unpaid tax.

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There is also an enquiry form for a paid search for shares, an asset search and a liability search all designed to protect executors and often add to the beneficiaries’ inheritance. I had a call today from a person whose mother had died 20 years ago, and has discovered £1,000 worth of privatisation shares.  He now has to spend more than that to get the High Court to take off 2 executors who can no longer assist (they ended up in prison and struck off!) The share registrar insists on making the cheque out to all executors shown on a 20-year-old grant of probate! Probably millions of people have old privatisation shares which are accumulating dividends each year. Back to the topic at hand – how to find a Will and Testament.   (See also how to find a copy that has been through Probate and Disputing one on the relevant pages). Why not Contact Us for more information? –

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How to find a Will on death – many fail to take proper precautions to keep them safe. How about yours?

Though possibly biased, we don’t think there is anything better than the Peace of Mind Service offered by Will Custodian Ltd: it keeps the documents safe, provides copies, encourages you to review matters regularly, and helps clients to keep up to date with changes in Tax and Law.  There is a free helpline for members and a hefty discount on updates when they are needed. Some clients will save £140,000. Don’t bother asking them if you need to find a Will, as it is very unlikely to be one stored by the Peace of Mind Service, which is easy to find with laminated storage certificates as well as registration on the National Will Register and annual reminders and newsletter and the option of an online data store to simplify managing assets and other information both for you and eventually your executors.

How to Find a Will that may have been lost or mislaid. (or skip to professional search)

Do bear in mind that it is a signed and witnessed original Last Will and testament you need to find, or the chances are that the estate will have to be distributed under the Rules of Intestacy. It is conceivable that a copy Will may be accepted (more on that below), but the burden of proof that it is a copy of the correct and signed Will is high. Under the Will Custodian system, there is a copy for the person whose document it is, plus laminated storage certificates (hard to lose!) for them AND their executors. On top of that, there is an annual newsletter and checklist sent out, and a monthly or annual direct debit. So if we are storing it, you won’t be reading this page. Is your Legal Planning secure? Look at the bank statements to see if anyone is being paid for storage, and check with the bank/s to see if there is a safe deposit box. Some people keep such vital documents at home in inexpensive home safes, but these do get very hot inside if there is a fire, so there is a danger that they could be incinerated. Need to register a death?
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Where to look when trying to find a Will:

Wherever YOUR Will is, it needs to be safe and accessible to your executors, who need to know where it is. We’ve tried to put this list of places to try in some sort of logical order:

Most people sadly store these crucial documents at home,

so a meticulous search of all paperwork is needed. If that search is carried out by someone who doesn’t like the contents of the Will, it just could “disappear.” Where the precaution of safe storage has been taken up, most providers just send a one-page letter confirming receipt and you’ll never hear from them again. So if that letter is lost… (Business people often keep important documents at work.)

Check that their bank

doesn’t hold a Will (but watch out for their expensive probate services!) Bear in mind that if it is in a Safe Deposit box, the executors may not be able to access it unless they have obtained probate – for which the Last Will is a requirement, so do NOT store such documents there.

Is there a regular solicitor or Will Writer

they were in touch with? Look for letters or business cards.

Their financial adviser may know,

and quite a few financial advisers write Wills or introduce clients to Professional Will Writers. They should know about shares and other investments – but some are just forgotten, and it may still be necessary to search for shares etc – see below.

Ask the Secretary of the Local Law Society

if they would kindly email their local members if they have information regarding the lost Will – they’ll need the full name, date of birth and addresses the person has lived at – plus any other names they may be known by (find the birth certificate – people often don’t use their legal names.) If the firm is no longer in business, they may be able to tell you who took it over. Failing that:

Most lost Wills are written by solicitors.

Not because they are careless, but because they outnumber Will Writers by 20 to 1! If the solicitor is no longer in business, the Solicitors Regulation Authority may hold records for firms and individual solicitors. Sometimes the SRA will hold the lost Will, other times they can advise you who has taken over the firm who originally wrote it. Of course, they may have no record, so local solicitors may just know who took over.      The other issue with the SRA is that it can take well over a year to go through and record the documents held by a former solicitors practice (I have heard it can take 3 years!) The information that they would require from a customer to find a will would be as much as possible:
  • The name of the firm of solicitors used.
  • The name of the individual solicitor they dealt with (although this is not always necessary).
  • If searching further back than 1993, the year in which the Will was made, they can search in the appropriate written records.

When a firm moves, closes or amalgamates into another, it usually holds information about who the successor firm would be, or if no successor firm is appointed, it usually holds details of the location of where files may be held.

If they do not hold information of a successor firm, or if they do not hold a location of files, they would search for solicitors who were at the firm at the time of closure who may still be contactable. If they are still practising, they would provide the customer with their current practising details so they could speak with the individual directly.

However, if the individual is not practising, but the Solicitors Registration Authority holds a personal home address, they would offer the customer a forward-on service. The SRA would forward a letter requesting files only on the customers’ behalf using the following procedure:

a. Write a letter for the attention of the solicitor, explaining that they wish to retrieve specific files or documents from them, ensuring that they include their name and contact details on this letter so that the solicitor can contact them directly.

b. Send the request with a covering letter or email to the SRA requesting that we forward the letter to the private address held on our records.

For further guidance from the Solicitors Regulation Authority about a lost will, 01527 504450. They open Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday: 8.30 am to 5 pm, Tuesday: 9.30 am to 5 pm. Or e-mail co***********@*****rg.uk

The Probate Registry stores some Wills:

you have to write to them with an original death certificate: they don’t give information on the phone. Address: Will Storage, Newcastle DPR, 2nd Floor, Kings Court, Earl Grey Way, North Shields NE29 6AR. If it is stored with them, there should be a Certificate with the relevant number on it, but it is just a flimsy piece of paper, easily lost. The PA7A is the form used to retrieve documents stored by the Principal Probate Registry. Will searches of their vaults are free of charge by the Probate Registry and are conducted by providing the name date of birth and date of death of the testator and any details surrounding the storage of the will if they have any to this email address sa***********************@*********ov.uk or submitting a request with full details by post. Please don’t try to ring them! Will searches can only check for original wills held by the Probate Registry.

The Society of Will Writers stores a large number

of documents for current and past members as well as for solicitors, etc, who have retired, ask for the Custody Department (best to use their email enquiry form). If you ask, they will often circulate members in the relevant region. They also take over the storage of Wills sometimes when members or others Will writing businesses close down or go out of business, and it is not always possible to contact their owners.

The Institute of Professional Will Writers

can ask their local members (the Society of Will Writers is far larger).

Speak to friends and family or neighbours or work colleagues

who just might have witnessed a Will, though that is not conclusive proof it is the latest Will.

Check bank statements

for storage or legal fees, which may give clues to firms who may know about the lost will.

National Searches

There are several initiatives trying to pull together storage data, but they are all operated on a commercial basis, so they will cost you money – this is the most comprehensive online will search facility we believe: www.certainty.co.uk the National Will Register (a business), and they do charge for a search to attempt to locate a missing Last Will and testament with no guarantee of success. All the Wills of our Peace of Mind Service Members are also registered with Certainty.

Advertising in the local press or The Gazette

(notice code 2902) reaches a significant audience and increases the prospect of the last will being found. Quoting former names or maiden names of a testator, in case that reveals a lost will which just might lead to further information. I believe this can be included in a Certainly search at extra cost.

The Office of the Public Guardian

has a search facility for Lasting Powers of Attorney and registered Enduring Powers of Attorney, but will ask you to justify the reason for the search, and may ask for a death certificate. The search service is currently free.  But that is probably no help if you are looking for the Will unless, by chance, it throws some light on the Will search.

The doctor

may have a record of a power of attorney, and the attorneys are quite likely to be executors or know who is.

Unable to Find a Lost Will, then a copy just may be enough.

Normally, the original will must be sent to the probate registry, along with the application for the grant of representation. However, in some circumstances, the Registry may
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accept a copy, providing that there is evidence to suggest that it has NOT been revoked (cancelled) by the deceased. You should also be able to produce evidence that you have tried hard to find the original signed copy of the lost Will If it is suspected to be a lost Will rather than having been revoked (cancelled), and there is clear evidence remaining that proves the testator’s wishes, an application can be made to the court for this copy Will to be proved in place of the original will. The procedure for this order is set out in Rule 54 of the Non-Contentious Probate Rules 1987. The application must be made by the person who is applying for the grant of probate, which is often the executor named in the document in question. This must be supported with sworn a statement of evidence with all relevant documentation. This evidence should broadly include:
  1. The circumstances in which the original will appears lost, including where the will was last seen.
  2. The attempts and searches that the executors have undertaken to locate it.
  3. Details of anyone who would benefit from the estate if the evidence of the will was not proved. This is primarily focused on parties who would benefit if the deceased died intestate, but either not at all or not as greatly as if the evidence was proved. If those parties do not consent to prove the will based on the evidence submitted, the matter can be referred to the High Court for a ruling.
We have professional contacts who can help you with the process of applying for probate with a copy if you have made every effort to find the lost will.  They can of course search for the Will for you, but that does put their bill up so it is best for you to do the searches and carefully document them.

Missing Will Insurance

If a newer will is found after the estate is distributed, it can lead to a costly legal process and redistribution of the estate. Missing Will Insurance enables the estate to be distributed and protects any future liabilities of the executors, personal representatives and beneficiaries. Beneficiaries can relax safe in the knowledge that if another will is discovered, they won’t need to repay any of their inheritance. You can find out more or get a quote from Insuristic here.

Helping you find all of the Deceased’s assets and liabilities in one easy step

One of your duties when administering an estate is to locate all of the Deceased’s assets, which may include known, unclaimed, or lost assets. You must gather accurate information on the Deceased’s estate. This could include contacting all relevant financial institutions to gather the necessary information on the Deceased’s assets, which can be an incredibly time-consuming task, and it can be difficult to know where to start. That’s why we’ve teamed up with Inheritance Data to offer Financial Asset and Liability Searches for just £185 (+VAT).

Find Lost Shares & Accounts Search 200 financial institutions and 350+ databases

The online asset-searching engine looks at 200 financial institutions and more than 350 databases, including:
  • Banks and building societies
  • Personal Pensions
  • Department for Work and Pensions search (company name is essential)
  • Investments
  • Life assurance
  • Shares
  • National savings and investments

Reduce the risk of missed debts or liabilities

A credits and liabilities search is also included to help identify estate accounts, mitigate against the risk of debts or liabilities, and assess potential insolvency before you apply for the Grant of Probate. The search is quick, concise, and easy to understand. The report will include information on:
  • Open and closed current accounts, credit cards, hire purchases, personal contract purchases (PCP), mortgage and equity release loans, personal and secured loans, payday loans, and utility accounts
  • Previous names, aliases, and addresses, as well as financially connected persons
  • Bankruptcy, County Court Judgements (CCJs), and Individual Voluntary Arrangements (IVAs)

Provides peace of mind

The thorough search will provide you with in-depth and reliable information about the Deceased’s assets, maximising the value of the estate. You’ll also be reducing the risk of a loss to the estate and protecting yourself and your client from future claims against the estate. If an additional asset is subsequently discovered, you’ll be able to demonstrate that efforts to locate the assets were undertaken and show that the financial institution failed to disclose the asset. This will also negate the risk of an Inheritance Tax issue with HMRC.

Reduce your administration time

It can take a significant amount of time and effort to write to all relevant financial institutions. Our Financial Asset and Liability Search service working with Inheritance Data contacts the financial institutions on the Executor’s behalf. It requests a full search of their databases for any accounts whether they may be active, dormant, or lost. This service is provided for a fixed fee of £185 (+VAT).

Over 90% of Financial Asset Searches uncover an account policy or shares.

The number of unclaimed assets is increasing year-on-year and it is predicted that UK financial institutions hold over £200 billion in dormant accounts. Between 2011 and 2017, financial institutions have returned more than £65.7 million as a result of asset searches. Search for shares is a great new benefit of this service – discovering a few privatisation shares could repay the cost of the included share search many times over. It’s incredibly easy for an individual to forget about or lose track of an account or policy. Many factors make keeping on top of assets challenging, including job changes and companies that grow, merge, change their names, and cease trading. That’s why it’s crucial to search for assets and ensure all are accounted for in the estate administration process. An Assets and Liability Search is £210 including VAT – this is a commercial service, not ours – just complete the form and they will call you to discuss the options. (Including a share search which we are told is not generally available elsewhere.)

Professional Search

Will search is NOT included, read on below the enquiry form to search for shares and other assets (and liabilities.)

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Missing Will Insurance

If a newer will is found after the estate is distributed, it can lead to a costly legal process and redistribution of the estate. Missing Will Insurance enables the estate to be distributed and protects any future liabilities of the executors, personal representatives and beneficiaries. Beneficiaries can relax safe in the knowledge that if another will is discovered, they won’t need to repay any of their inheritance. You can find out more or get a quote from Insuristic here. See also STANDING SEARCH                SEARCH FOR A WILL BEING PROBATED            COPY OF OLD WILL & PROBATE.
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(Back to what to do after a death.) Contact Us with any questions you may have about your Will search! Being an executor can be tough, why not check out our guide on what to do after a death? Need help choosing a Funeral Director? Click here We hope this may help you to find a lost Will.

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